Johnny Brown
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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Apples werent mentioned in that post either but that does not mean they don't exist. ;)
Whoever puts faith in me, just as the scripture has said: ‘From deep within him streams of living water will flow.’”+ 39 However, he said this concerning the spirit, which those who put faith in him were about to receive; for as yet there was no spirit,+ because Jesus had not yet been glorified. -
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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Apples werent mentioned in that post either but that does not mean they don't exist. ;)
Whoever puts faith in me, just as the scripture has said: ‘From deep within him streams of living water will flow.’”+ 39 However, he said this concerning the spirit, which those who put faith in him were about to receive; for as yet there was no spirit,+ because Jesus had not yet been glorified. -
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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Can anyone explain this to me where Jesus says He is God and God is He:?
At that time the Festival of Dedication took place in Jerusalem. It was wintertime, 23 and Jesus was walking in the temple in the colonnade of Sol′o·mon.+ 24 Then the Jews surrounded him and began to say to him: “How long are you going to keep us* in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.” 25 Jesus answered them: “I told you, and yet you do not believe. The works that I am doing in my Father’s name, these bear witness about me.+ 26 But you do not believe, because you are not my sheep.+ 27 My sheep listen to my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.+ 28 I give them everlasting life,+ and they will by no means ever be destroyed, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.+ 29 What my Father has given me is something greater than all other things, and no one can snatch them out of the hand of the Father.+ 30 I and the Father are one.”*+Basically God the father made him into a God by putting some bondo in between them and making them one unit.. Everywhere Jesus goes, so goes God, Everywhere God goes, so goes Jesus. (Purely a symbolic representation of what the scripture says).
When you prey to Jesus, you prey to your Lord Jesus and Also God the Father. It says it in all the bibles, even the NWT.
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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I also have questions about this verse in the NWT:
But Moses said to the true God: “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they say to me, ‘What is his name?’+ What should I say to them?” 14 So God said to Moses: “I Will Become What I Choose* to Become.”*+ And he added: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘I Will Become has sent me to you.’
I feel ashamed to even think God is "becoming" something "else". God is infinite, and does not "become" anything in any concept of "changing". God is truth and the truth never "becomes". It is what it is. God is "everlasting". God is Everpower, God is Everpresent but god is not "becoming". This seems like a really bad perversion of other Christian bibles. It feels like im insulting God just thinking about it and belittling Gods infinite power.
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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What about this verse in the NWT
For just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive,+ so the Son also makes alive whomever he wants to.+ 22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son,+ 23 so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.
Does this not prove the trinity? How would a JW defend this as not being a trinity or Jesus being Equal with God from their own bible?
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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Mabey you are missing the point. No matter if it says Jesus/YHWH/Lord/God/Yahweh, the verse clearly claims/says that Jesus Christ and God are the same thing. Whether you replace Lord with Jehovah or not, it does not change the context of the previous verse:
Exhibit A:
"For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord"Exhibit B:
" For the scripture says: “No one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.”+ 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek"
This verse is referring to Jesus Christ, stating that faith in christ is the same as faith in God the father. In essence it is saying they equal and the same.Does this not represent what Jehovah's witnesses claim to not believe in, the Trinity doctrine? -
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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Ok I see, however, wouldn't this purposeful mistake prove the JW doctrine false? I'm not trying to prove it false, but you can't escape this verse, which clearly refers to Christ as being God. And they placed that there to belittle Christ. Even though they changed it, you can still understand what it is saying.Which is actually pretty amazing but makes me feel sad for people who read and believe the NWT bible.
Is it true that JW's put limitations on God, saying that he is not "everywhere" infinitely present? I have personally witnessed in real life, that God is in fact present everywhere, at all time, even for people who are the least deserving. I did not "see" God or Gods' avatar, but I did have a vision that saved my life in a 150Mph car wreck. The vision I had was a "distortion of reality" that was impossible because the "wall" I "hallucinated" was beyond my vision, meaning I could not possibly see it, but I did. God saved my life, and I can tell you with certainty that I was the least deserving of divine intervention, I was also an atheist. I believe in God not because I was faithful but because I witnessed Gods' power. God doesn't even need to change reality to change the world, God can manipulate your mind to change outcomes by giving you a vision or changing your perception of reality.
For now, I am studying the Christian religion and will let God lead me on the path God has set. I am thankful to be alive and will repay God however I can. Where ever I can and when I feel God pulling my strings.
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Your explanation for a total contradiction in the New World Translation.
by Johnny Brown in"for if you publicly declare with your mouth that jesus is lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that god raised him up from the dead, you will be saved.
10 for with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation.
11 for the scripture says: no one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.+
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"For if you publicly declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord,+ and exercise faith in your heart that God raised him up from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one exercises faith for righteousness, but with the mouth one makes public declaration+ for salvation. 11 For the scripture says: “No one who rests his faith on him will be disappointed.”+ 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek.+ There is the same Lord over all, who is rich* toward all those calling on him. 13
For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah* will be saved.”The following verse is copy pasted from the NWT. I do not belong to any religion, I am simply a seeker of truth studying the differences between the JW and Christian doctrine.
This verse basicly says in a nutshell from the JW bible that Jesus' name is the same as God. An apple and an orange are both fruit for example. Putting the word "Jehovah" in that verse when the context is clearly referring to Jesus Christ.
The KJV "King James Version" however does not contradict itself:"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
If you are going to change the bible, you should at least make it make sense people.